
I remember the old Simmons drums from the ’80s, and even played a few gigs on those famous hexagons. The electronic percussion market has gone through many permutations since the era of Reaganomics and MTV. Related to the original, British-design Simmons electronic drums by name only, a new generation of Simmons drums are on the scene. I brought a couple of the new Simmons offerings, the SD7K electronic drums and the optional companion DA50 monitor, into my home studio for evaluation.
It’s a pad, pad, pad world
The SD7K is a 5-piece electronic drum pad configuration, plus crash and ride cymbal pads. The pads are round, have resilient gum-rubber-like synthetic surfaces, and are single-trigger with the exception of the dual-trigger snare drum pad, which creates separate rim and head sounds.
The pads’ playing surfaces are bouncy and responsive, with good velocity sensitivity (the relationship of how hard you hit to the volume produced). Velocity response may be customized to your playing style with a choice of 6 velocity “curves”.
The hi-hat pad is controlled via a separate foot pedal, while the bass drum pad accepts the kick pedal of your choice. A lightweight curved rack and mounting hardware and cables are included.
The electronic cymbals have a certain amount of “give” to them like real cymbals. The hi-hat pad/pedal combination feels and sounds very natural, with a smooth transition between open and closed hat sounds and with a useful and convincing half-open hat sound. You can even play foot splashes with your heel like on a regular hi-hat.
Sound check
The SD7K’s drum module, or “brain”, is stocked with 300 sounds divided into 20 preset and 30 user drum sets. When you power up the module, the default drum set that comes up in “Kit” immediately impresses with its deep, ultra-fat sounds. The other acoustic sets are of similar quality, ranging from clean, resonant, country and pop tones to tight funk and house kits as well as large rock concert hall kits.
There is a good hip-hop-oriented kit, vintage drum machine emulations, and patches that pay homage to the original ’80s Simmons electronic drums. Trashy industrial and junkyard sets add myriad metal percussion sounds to the mix, and a DJ effects set provides scratch and turntable sounds. Some patches use velocity cross-switching to trigger a second sound when played harder.
GM (General MIDI) percussion sound sets are included, along with a complete selection of GM instrument sounds. Other drum sets include a full Latin percussion section, an Indian tabla setup, and a cartoon set, as well as several house and fusion variations. An orchestral patch puts you in the symphony, complete with timpani, triangle, and orchestra cymbal explosions. The brush kit is well done, giving you a nice slow brush snare sweep for ballads. There are good, convincing sounds here suitable for playing everything from metal to Mahler. `
Reverb, the effect most often used for sweetening and adding spaciousness to drums both live and in the studio, can be added to any kit with the touch of a button,
Drummer at the controls
Navigating the SD7K’s sound module is simple, with arrow keys to scroll through the kits and individual sounds. A set of buttons corresponds to the various drums, and you can select any drum sound for editing by pressing the button. The individual drum sounds’ volume, tuning, and panning can then be adjusted.
An integrated metronome allows you to check your timing. The metronome can be set for a click sound with a bell accenting the one, or with a voice counting out the beats (“one”, “two”, “three”, “four”), and so on. Five time signatures are supported.
The Song section provides 50 songs to play along with, including a range of styles from rock, funk, and jazz to blues and Latin. The buttons that correspond to the drum sounds light up in time to the voices being played, giving you a miniature light show as well as providing valuable feedback as to how the beat is put together. By dropping the drum track out of the mix with the touch of a button and playing the rhythm track yourself, you can use the song feature to learn the basics of the various beats used in the songs.
USB and MIDI I/Os offer versatile options for interfacing the SD7K’s MIDI output with computers, sequencers, sound modules, and other external digital gear. An aux input lets you play along with your favorite music player while the headphone jack allows you to practice in private.
DA50 Drum Monitor
In order to hear yourself play electronic drums, you need a sound system of some kind, unless you’re going to always use headphones. Fortunately, Simmons has made your choice easy with their DA50 Electronic Drum Set Monitor. This compact wedge-shaped 50-watt combo sits alongside the set and provides plenty of punchy percussion sound so that you and your band mates can stay right on beat.
The DA50 has a well-defined, crisp sound, with soft-touch rubber knobs that let you dial in bass, mid, and treble to tailor the sound to your liking. 1/4” aux and 1/8” MP3 inputs make it easy to run a signal from your CD or MP3 player or mixer into the monitor to play along with. The DA50 also includes a headphone jack.
New breed
Taking advantage of the advances made in recent years in sampling and other technologies, the new Simmons deliver a solid selection of high-quality, up-to-date sounds and pads that feel good to play. It’s to the credit of the “new Simmons” that they have come out with some very playable digital drums that sound great and cost less than most of the competition.
Musician’s Friend carries the Simmons flagship SD7K Electronic Drum Set and the DA50 Electronic Drum Monitor.
Features and Specs:
Simmons SD7K Electronic Drum Set
• 4 single-trigger & one dual-trigger pads
• One hi-hat and 2 cymbal pads
• Curved mounting rack
• Hi-hat foot controller
SD7K Sound Module
• 300 voices
• 50 drum kits (20 preset, 30 user)
• 50 songs
• Metronome with 5 time signatures
• 1/4” left/mono and right output jacks
• MIDI I/O
• USB port
• 1/4” headphone output
• 1/4” aux input
15 comments:
This thing has gotten some real bad reviews. I checked one out at Guitar Center and like you I didn't think it was all that bad either. I'm debating on whether to get this now that they've dropped the price to $399.00 or save an extra hundred or two and get one of the Alesis kits. Your review of the Simmons is encouraging. You know it's actually not the old Simmons company; they lost their shirt on a $10,000 flop of a drumkit in the late 80's. Guitar Center now owns the name from what I read.
Yeah,again as I stated in opening paragraph this new version shares only the name of the old British Simmons drums. The old Simmons outfit went down when companies like Roland and Yamaha started making good sets for less. I played some gigs on some early Simmons sets that had a hard, masonite-like surface. Very hard on the wrists and arms. These new drums are pretty good though - definitely a value for under $400. They are a guitar center product.
This set goes under a few different brand names... I found it on YouTube when a guy was demo-ing a set called the Meledi DD506. On Ebay the the SD5K is aka OSP DD505. The module on the 7k seems to offer a bit more versatilty than the 5k, but no room for any expansion on either. The 7k adds a dual trigger for the snare, but no dual triggers, or choke capability, for the cymbals. That's a let down. They can't handle dual trigger cymbals either, so you have to upgrade to a better module. The 505, 506, 5k, 7k, whatever you want to call them, are pretty basic. I don't think it's a set you can pound the hell out of, from what people on Musician's Friend have said when they reviewed the Simmons SD5K. I doubt the SD7k is any sturdier.
For my money, if I am going to go with a set similar, I'd go with the Roland TD3SW. Yeah, it's about a grand, but it has dual trigger cymbals, chokable hi-hat as well as cymbals, one more slot to add another cynmbal (single trigger ride I believe). There are plenty of good demos of this set on YouTube, as well as demos for the DD505 (SD5K) Roland does a nice demo of set-up and features of the TD3SW on their website as well.
I forgot to mention that on Ebay, if you like the Simmons SD5K, aka the OSP DD505, you can get the best deal there. They offer the DD505 with a throne, bass pedal, and gross of sticks for the $399.00 price tag, AND free shipping! The other music stores don't give you a foot pedal or throne. OSP makes the kit playable out of the box for $399.
If you already have a throne and bass pedal, OSP offers one setup with the 50 watt amp for I think about $469, again free shipping.
OSP does not advertise the DD506 (Simmons SD7K), but I imagine if you call them they will get it for $599 and throw in the throne, pedal, and gross of sticks - push them for the same deal on the DD506 (Simons SD7k) as advertised on the DD505 (Simmons SD5K) and I bet you get it!
Oh, and OSP gives you mesh heads for the set. I don't see any other company doing that at all... and you forgot to mention that they are 8" pads all round, and they all can accept regular batter heads of your choice. :-)
I am not a proponent of OSP, but they do have the best deal, period.
Typo error - I mentioned the Meledi DD506 (Simmons SD7K), it's MEDELI DD506, Made in Hong Kong... I contacted them and they were the ones that said it was sold under the Simmons SD7K name in the U.S., and that it was a Guitar Center product. Maybe Guitar Center can match the Ebay OSP's deal, I don't know.
Wait. I haven't seen this drum set (Simmons SD7K) for under $599. Are you saying that Guitar Center carried this exact drum set for $399? And now it's $599?
Yeah, GC will sometimes offer killer deals, I don't recall whether they were offered for $399 - but the usual sale price is $599.
Guitar Center price for the Simmons SD7K is $599 and the sd5k is $399
thanks for the review. i can't stand "user reviews" on guitar center and such since most are "AWESOME FOR THE MONEY!!!111" "1 MILLION STARZZZ!!!"
yours was informative. thanks again.
I have many drum brains at Wyncote Academy where I run the music elective part time program. We build our own triggers and stands. I just "won" the Simmons SD7K brain for $100 on ebay and await its arrival. Seemed a deal with built in mix in. The Alesis DMPro had a mix in but seemed steep in price. I cannot fathom why the engineers didn't add a stereo mix in to the DM5 since they dropped the DMPro. What I suggest to students is to pick up a Boss DR670 and then a midiKITI or older PM-16. Build your own padsand beaterless foot pedals-it isn't difficult!! Even the Zoom stuff works with the early Roland PM-16 since it can compensate for the PM-16 not having a foot pedal switch feature. With a midiKITI Pro and the DR670 one can program very nuanced sample switching and also have 8 shots at muting cymbals etc. A midiKITI Pro and a used DR-670 should set you back $300 combined factor in another $150 for velcro, aluminum, plexiglass, tubing,piezos, Goop, speaker wire 16 guage steel sheeting and you will be very very pleased. We use the early D4 for traditional drum sset and the DM5 for specially built hand pads. John Poole see: wyncoteacademy.org faculty if curious.
I just want to know what about this drum generally. I am gonna buy it by a credit card, without the chance of tasting it, cause there are no of them in my country. So after reading the article and the comments, I got confused about your opinion. I must say I am learning to play, and my target is to play in private, in my room, where no big noise can be done cause of neigbohur. Thanks
Oh my god. This SDK5 or 7 is absolute cheap chinese shit!!! ALSO THIS IS A RIP OFF, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL SIMMONS FACTORY, IDEAS, DESIGN WHAT SOEVER.. IT SOUNDS A BAD AS ALL THE OTHER TERRIBILE CHEAP STUFF....
I've had my DD-506 (Medeli) for 2 weeks now and being an old drummer I'm very surpriced of the quality of the set. Very good feeling and in my opinion unbeatable for the money.
The built in sounds are great, but sometimes I use the kit for controlling my "Addictive Drums" wich has first class samples.
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I used to work in a recording studio that had 3 eDrum kits, Roland, Alesis, and an SD5k, and have been a drummer and a drum tech for years. What I've found is that most electronic drum pads and triggers wear out with use. Mostly because some guys who play acoustic and then switch to electronic don't realize they don't need to hit the pads with as much velocity as acoustic.
With mild to medium regular playing, you can expect ALL these kits, whether Simmons or Roland, to last about 3000 hrs of play time before triggers start fouling up.
NONE of these kits is suitable for gigging, with the exception of some small work. The sounds and overall trigger responsiveness are far too simplistic to be used for large venue, live performance. These are starter kits and are great for:
-practice where volume is an issue
-direct link to digital recording equipment for demo quality recordings
-learning
Personally, I have found electronic kits to be cold and a shadow of what drumming really is (unless you're prepared to spend several thousand dollars) since there are many subtle naunces that are lost on these entry level kits, such as ghosting, really fast double strokes, and getting different sounds out of an acoustic head. Particularly on the SD7K, the single trigger no choke cymbals will be a pained loss to those that are used to very dynamic play. If you are a really good drummer already, you will probably be a little aggrevated by anything in this level of kit since it's not a real drumkit. Electronics will never be as good as acoustic, and if you accept that they are what they are, they're a great deal for the money. Everyone has to realize though, that these are a glorified practice pad kit. I'm about to buy a set and am comparing the options for under a grand, but am leaning toward the sd5k since it's cheap and I'm looking for something to workout on and get ready for upcoming tour and possibly record direct to cubase for demo songs. Thinking of it more like a piece of excercise equipment than a musical instrument.
So conclusion:
If you're new to drumming, these are good for you. Don't hit them too hard, they aren't made to wallop. Be aware that at some point when practicing rudiments, the triggers will be unable to respond as quickly as you are hitting them - don't let that mess you up.
If you're an experienced drummer, remember that you're going to have to play softly for these things to last more than a year. These are not the real thing and don't compare to a live experience. These are good for quiet alone practice, or small audience performance at best.
I'll let you know how I like whatever I buy after I play it for a few days.
SO I've had my SD7K for about a month now, and I can say that while it's a decent sounding kit, it definitely has some shortcomings. The module itself is maxed out right out of the box with 9 trigger/controllers. If you think you might want one more crash, I'd look for something higher than the SD7K. I currently have the ride set to a crash and dont bother with using a ride- reason being brings us to shortcoming number two - the cymbal triggers suck ass. They won't pickup 16th notes at 100BPM, nor will it properly register any kind of stick rolls on the cymbals. Also, lacking dual triggers, you can't do nay bell work, but I was expecting that going in. Shortcoming number 3 - kick trigger. I haven't really been able to pinpoint what I should do with this trigger- The trigger is poorly designed and doesn't register hits the same as the rest of the stick driven triggers- meaning I have to turn the ind drum volume all the way up on the kick (31) and about half on everything else (12-17) so we get similar volume response. To complicate matters, occassionally the trigger will register a full hit and just about blow the speakers in the monitors. I had an Alesis brain that you could adjust the sensitivity of the triggers individually... but Simmons has left that option out. I think I'm going to replace all the cymbals and the kick trigger with Roland triggers and see how they perform.
All in all, my thoughts haven't changed. These cheap kits are good for home banging and rinky-dink shit, because once you've played on them for about a month, that's what your opinion of the hardware is.
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